Category: the Rant Board
I believe that, on this site, we could say bad things, but maybe in private messages, or something like that. There are people in this community that are ten, maybe younger. And anyway. Where did these horrid words come from? They're insulting to anyone they're directed at! And all they do is make people mad, sad, or (this is what I hate) satisfied! We may say them sometimes, but I strongly believe we should keep them a little bit more to ourselves.
To all the people that are saying all these bad words on the Zone or anywhere for that matter (unless it's private) you should be ashamed! of yourselves. Bad language should not be excepted here, unless you are sending a private message, period! Or if you are using MSN Messenger and you don't invite anyone. Knock it off I say, knock it off!
I suggest you look at the previous posts on this board. You are allowed to say what you wish, and noone has any right to complain about it. This is not a community geared for kids. I get annoyed with the constant complaints by people. I mean. the nicest way to say it is. If you don't like it. There's the door. I hate to sound like a jerk, but it is the truth.
I have to agree with Liam
thank you liam he is right in fact there is no one ten and younger the person who claims to be ten if fourteen in fact i think the youngest person on here is 13 get over yourselves and stop complaining because this site says on its front page that it is not a family site
I can't believe we're still talking about this topic? This has been discussed enough already. Like I said in a quick note to ppl earlier, grow up or get out. Trust me, we don't want this to turn into the old accessible chat where every damn comment is censored.
I, am, so, very, sorry! I admit, I do swear sometimes, and yes, you have a point, maybe it should be private, but look! Sometimes people forget, and oops! I'm one of those people. So, yeah, maybe we should lay off the swearring, a little, but if you expect it to totally go away, well, maybe you should just put me, and all the other people who swear on ignore, cuz I'm sorry, I may slip from time to time, but I do admit, today, it was ententional, cuz I was ticked off, about those cheaters, and, oh no! I had a bad day, and maybe I should have kept it to myself, but I'm human, I make mistakes, and I swear from time to time, but I will try my hardest, to remember, those of you, who have a problem with that. SO yeah! I'm sorry, I know I'm not the only one, maybe others might not be so quick to apologize, but Charisma is famous for her needless apologies!
I think the zone Is perfectly good for swearing!
I'm happy I can use it after my school blocked it... and I think there should be an age limit for like 13 and older... sorry I felt I had to say it!
I do swear, but I also respect the wishes of those who would prefer me not to swear!
People! especially the admins!
Please put an age limit on this site or somethin so I don't have to put up with these little kids posting!
Allison nothing against you of course!
I'll get back to you on my suggestions!
I have another idea... hmmmmm message me on msn and I'll tell you all!
peace!
Karrie/gummybear/gumball!
Hey there. I realize i swear. I do try to confine the majority of my swearing, as in off-line chat, to private talks with my friends who also swear. From time to time, it slips out though in public, on and off the net. I do not wish to offend anyone on the site. I also, however, am glad for the freedom of expression that we have here and that we did not have on previous blindness chat sites. I will make more effort to restrict it to private chats, but I can't promise it 100 percent of the time. Alison you seem like a good kid and there's no need for your stay or Lou's stay on the Zone to be ruined. But at the same time, you're gonna hear swearing in the real world, and you're gonna hear an occasional expletive here on the public chat. As long as there's no flaming and there's respect for those of us who swear and those of us who don't swear, I will be pleased.
Refer to my previous post on a similar topic if anyone cares to be reminded of my own personal views.
But I believe, despite the disclaimer of the front page, everyone from all ages has a right to be here as there is technically no age limit put on this site. I also would think it a mighty shame if there did have to be a limit set. But if it will make everyone happy, guess it should happen. Going from my personal views on swearing, I agree with Alison; I can't understand why it needs to be done, and I guess all she is asking, (and there are others out there that agree with her) is that we try and keep the swearing more for private messages.
In other words, like I said, while there is a disclaimer, it says nothing about specific age groups. Therefore, anyone comes on to meet people, play games, etc. with the feeling that it's a really cool and friendly site. where they can feel safe. But then we get mass messages with swearing all through and it can really throw people off. (I know what I'm talking about too!)
I do also know that the "ignore" function is there and it can be used to block any offending members by anyone.
I feel this site perhaps needs a bit of a clearer disclaimer. That will most likely fix a lot of these concerns, and keep the arguing down.
This might be a stupid question, but why would there be people 10 or younger on this or any other site WITHOUT PARENT SUPERVISION? I think that's a bunch of crap if you ask me. Stupid parents.
I don't think swaring is neceserry, and I do, like some others said, try to keep it privat if I can and do try to respect the view of those who don't like it, as long as they can accept me the way I am and not disrespect me just because I do sometimes sware, however, I can not guaranty that I will never ever send a mass quicknote with a swareword, I don't do it because I have to, but sometimes I feel like it, either because I'm anoied or because i do it in humorious way, true I know not every1 finds it funny, but that's just the way I am, but as lefan said it the best, as long as those of us who do sware and those people who don't have respect for each other things should be fine, but I sure would hate this place to turn in to some kind of place where every comment is sencered. Regarding the age limmit, get real people, this is the internet, how can you impose something like that? It's impossible!
oh, and also, as much as what I said, also, I agree with those that this is getting a bit old and boring, there was already similar topic and most of us already said what we think, I just hope there won't be the same topic every single day
As for the thought that there is noone under thirteen here, that is not true. I am ten, probably the only ten here, but I am. I don't care for an occational swear word, but people that swear continuesly bother me. Why should there be an age limit? I mean! There are already tuns of sites that us ten and younger can't get in to! Why ad another! Also, as I'm totally blind, I can't get on to some of the sites that sighted ones can. That adds more to the things I cannot do on the internet. And I know that some people swear, I don't care if they slip, but if they do that contunuesly... then... then it would bother me. I know there have been other topics on the boards, but it doesn't seem to have done much good. I men. Some, but not a load.
I was in the car coming home form college today, and I guess I had an apifony. Why not create some sort of site for those who might be younger or for those who don't like swearing. I unfortunately don't have the tiem or know how to do it, but.. it would be nice to see. Also. If you really don't like the cursing, maybe soem sort of either swear filter could be made. the best filter for now is the ignore button next to a quick note.
just my 2 cents worth.
To wrap things up, if people want to swear, go on and do it. Just remember, they are in the dictionary!
What are in the dictonary?
I am fourteen and don't like swearing either. I am a friend of Alison's and agree with her. I don't mind the occasional swear word, or slip, but continuously, not good. I am very aware of the Ignore button, and if I see continuous swearing I will press it. But I understand about slipups, and though it is my first day here, I haven't felt the need to ignore anyone yet. Yes this is a great site, even though I like lose at all the games teehee. Okay I'm done. Byebye.
sorry for not posting in my own topic. We want just a bit of respect. And please don't start with that stupid disclaimer. We know it. It could fit in our brains and you don't have to say "there is a disclaimer that says... blah, blah, blah"
I'll not accept that first excuse.
And for those who think that growing up is just saying obscene things, at least we are smart enough to do something else. Alice, stick to your guns, you are totally right. You can swear, but at the same time be educated.
Those words ofend anyone who reads it.
OK... I think those previously posts are ridiculous. As I said, "you don't have to say those things in order to become interesting"
Lou, Alison, you both have very valid points, and this is coming from a person that sometimes gets a little caryed away sometimes. I have noticed this about myself, and while I may slip from time to time, I will from now on, really try to check myself, in a lot of ways, so as not to offend anyone.
But, I think you are absolutely right, swearing isn't necessary in order to have an intelligent conversation, and you both are young, but i know a lot of older one's who feel the same way, and I want to respect them, so I will be more careful.
I won't attempt to sensor myself, but I'm not goign to purposely swear, but if I do and you don't like it, you can ignore me. I do not take any offense.
Well, Unfortunatley, swareing is a part of life. If ppl don't hear it on the zone, they'll just hear it someplace else. Either on the street, on TV, at school, in a bus, and the list goes on without an end. So, just like when u hear something u don't like on TV, hear someone say something u don't like at school or on the street, u change the channel/ignore the person doing this. I'm afraid the same rules apply on the zone. Welcome to the real world. Just like in real life when someone says/does something u do not agree with, u either choose to ignore or put up with what the person is doing. So, apply that concept to the zone, and any other webcite u go to and things will work out just fine.
Hello. As you know, our official position has always been, and will remain, freedom of expression. People can use obscene words on the site just as much as others have the right to question it. To this end, a couple of points should be made.
Technically, people under 13 shouldn't be on any site of this nature, at least in the U.S. due to the child protection laws that the government has. Don't blame me, blame the government. At least without parental consent.
To that end, we could create all of the filters in the world if you wished to use them, but someone would always find a way around them.
We could also have more than one quick note channel, and have one as a safer one to use, but I'm not sure if there's enough people on the site yet to justify this? Thoughts? The same could be done with a family-friendly board if there is the interest.
The only thing we restrict now is blatantly obscene user names, blatantly harassing or inflamatory speech, and blatant talk of illegal activity. Such is standard just about anywhere.
Hope this helps, and I appreciate the great dialogue on this topic.
If you have any concrete suggestions for things that we could do from this end, we'd like to see them. But we aren't going to change a policy for the sake of change. I've seen too many sites start out using freedom of speech and then revert back to a really conservative place to be. We will not do this.
what i am trying to say from almost two months is that most of all users don't respect others. i now understand people and zone. If they have a question or need help, in some cases users give answers that aren't useful. Also, there are very few users who give answers.
Just that.
hmmm, blatant languaje of illegal activity? such as cracks or something like that?
Look all, I can't even believe this is being discussed either! I mean, there are tuns of chat sites out there. YOu wana go on a chat site that doesn't have swearing, well this ain't it! Over here, people are allowed to express themselvs and the way they feel anyway they see fit, and I honestly don't mind that as long as someone doesn't just completely get out of line! Besides, like so many others have said, just use the ignore button!, or just block quicknotes all together if you really want to, and let's not talk about this anymore! It's really getting too old, and repetative! Not unless of course someone has an idea to accomodate those who don't wana hear/read the swearing.
do you think thats an idea?
is just an opinion
I agree, yeah im no goody lil 2 shoes, but hotbraille was stopped because of negativity, and i dont want that to happen to this site. people create these sites for fun, so why ruin it with negativity
Carlie
Come on people, we're all adults here. Let's act our age for once, and not our shoe size.
Sure, there may be people on this sight as well as everywhere else who may use profane language a lot more than they should, and of course we all have our own oppinions about such matters, but sitting around complaining about it on a regular basis isn't going to change anything.
Are we going to stop watching Tv, reading adult literature, and associating with half of society just because they do the same thing?
If you don't like the way someone chooses to expressthemslves themselves, then don't associate with them. But let's get a grip here; this isn't a ham radio club, and the way I look at it, if you were made aware that on this site people could speak freely (at least to a certain extent) and you still joined it anyway knowing you were going to here some profanity at times, you did so at your own risk, and can't blame other people for it.
Thank you very much for this post. I agree wholeheartedly.
swearing is ok, especially in a non family oriantated site. this isn't billed to be all soft and sappy is it? no!
I agree to an extent, but it would seem that we aren't indeed all adulte here. I think that while it is all nice for everyone to say what they like, when they like and how ever much of it they would ike, etc etc etc. I also think that it is important for us to remember that thoughs of us who are adults, while we might not hav asked for it, have a responsibility to these kids. Remember, children learn from example guys, and I think it is pretty terrible when children as young as 10 can hold a far more intelegent sounding conversation than us so called adults. To that end though, Kids, if you see a subject line with a profanity in it, just tab past it and don't read it. And everyone else, if there is a topic that the kids have started, then refrain from abusing them, and cursing at them, and respect that they are just kids, and should be treated with the care that children diserve. I know that ther are people on this site who have children, and ask yourselves, would you like your kid reading some of this stuff? the answer to that isn't to then say, well their parents shouldn't be letting them access a site like this. The answer is, you don't speak to your own children like this, or to children you meet on the street, so don't treat these ones any different. Just my 2 cents.
Hi alison, and rdfreak,
Nice to meet you Alison. Well, that's one of the reasons I don't post much. And it's the reason, well, part of the reason I have public notes turned off, but I do have private notes enabled. Anyway, I was thinking of putting my blind halucinations story on the writers block, but I'm sort of put off of it now, because if people hate it, and critique it, they'll probably tell me it's a lot of blanking junk. I don't mind honest opinions, if folks find something wrong with it, but knowing folks are free to use those kind of words when they don't like my stories or whatever puts me off. I might post more if there was a way to put board messages on ignore as well as quicknotes.
Anyway, it's nice to meet you alison, and you too rdfreak. Have a nice evening all.
wonderwoman
hmm, I agree withn everyone, I'm mainlyn posting on this topic to bring it uup from 33 to 34 sense I don't like odd numbers! lol
Isn't the FCC cracking down on a lot of indecency on radio and network TV these days? I don't know. I'm really no fan of censorship myself, but then again I'm unusual because I don't offend easily.
Let this thread die!
no, we won't! lol
Hi, this is the first time I've posted.
What I've got to say isn't going to be popular, especially for my first post but here it is none the less.
Firstly, Kids shouldn't be on the net anyway certainly unless they are being supervised, because you never know where they are viewing. If the parents don't control their children then the child in question is simply going to stray into areas where it shouldn't even know exist. How many instantses are there of child obduction etc because the parent didn't take notice of what the child was doing on the internet and then the child goes missing, and oh dear, the dredded chatrooms get the blame again. Know what they've done over here in the UK? Microsoft have shut down all their UK based chatrooms but even worce we can't get to any other chatrooms on MSN now. So thanks to the parent who just sticks their child in the back room with the PC, the rest of us who might want to use the various chat survices out there on the msn surver are now barred.
I'm not someone who agrees to much with sensoring, I agree with a good warning on the front page of the site, to say that such and such is permitted and isn't advisable for children, yes I agree with that. But to blatently sensor it is wrong I think. There's to much of that going on these days, we are going to turn into the big brother nation if we aren't careful and sooner or later we'll have thought police doing what they do best.
Ok, I don't actually sware, well not to much but that is because I choose not to, I think there are better ways to express yourself, but each to their own.
Anyway, rant over for now, I'll get off my sope box!lol
By all
What I say and the way I say it won't be determined by any of you speech-sensoring, wishy-washy do gooders who think it's wrong for us to say here what we say elsewhere. Honestly, if I want to use fowl language, that's my right and none of you are going to take it away from me. You hear it in the streets, and sorry, if you came here lucking for pretection, but you found the wrong place. You might find the chemist more appropriate, or am I thinking of something esle. Seriously though, I'm not going to speak to any of you as if you was some kind of grandmother with values common to people living in the 1600's right?
Freedom of speech indeed .. I just think excessive use of the f word implies low moral standards or serious lack of imagination, but that's just my view. Having to use it at least 3 times every time you say something seems pretty stupid to me, but it doesn't bother me directly either so, each to his own, curse away folks.
Yeah agreed, it's personal choice but there's better ways to skin a cat as they say.
Come off it. Some kids are definitely responsible enough to be on the Net. Some just aren't. But don't say no kid shoudl beo nlien that's not fair! Lol...
While I agree with LV,I do think that the level of supervision should be individual and based upon each kid's level of maturity. I don't know what the rules are at most libraries for children going on the net, but I do hope they're decent enough to protect children. Chat rooms are dangerous, definitely! Especially for children! They require a great deal of caution and maturity, and just cause a chat room is for the blind doesn't make it any safer. I like that you can turn off quicknotes, that way if a parent wants their child to play the games, they can do that without worrying about swear words intruding. There are the boards, especially the sex addict board though, and I'm certainly not going to restrict my language over there, nor should I have to to protect children. Teens and adults need places to gather on the net too. Besides, swearing is quite common in middle and high school cafeterias, and if a parent's sole concern about chat rooms is swearing (which would be uneducated and ridiculus anyway), then they should keep the cafeterias in mind. I do hate when every other word someone uses is a swear word though because it's not very creative. the occasional swear word though adds color to language, and, if used sparingly, can carry a stronger message than alternate words. To prevent myself using those words in the presence of people who are offended, when I do swear, I remind myself of the need to be careful. Keeping the consequences of my actions in the front of my mind keeps me in line in front of, say, my parents/grandparents.
caitlin of course you would say that children are sensible and mature because you are a child, and you don't want people to think that you are not mature enough to surf the net on your own. however, I agree that children shouldn't have unsupervised access to the internet. if my child was abducted by someone he met on line, it wouldn't be his fault for not using common sense, it would be my fault for not knowing what he was up to. that's why we have adults, and children. and children are just not able at a young age to take responsibility for their own actions.
Hi Sugarbaby, you're stereotyping all children by saying that they all can't take responsibility for their own actions. If a child really does understand what he or she is doing, and fully understands the consequences of their actions, then they can indeed take responsibility. Of course, it's up to adults to decide whether a particular child has enough competence to make a decision/do a particular activity, and there are general guidelines of what is and is not appropriate for different ages.
do you really think so? ok well let me share a story with you then. last year a man was jailed here for abducting an 11 year old girl who he'd met on the internet. he was an ex marine who had come over here to meet this girl who he'd had an on line relationship with. She'd told him she was 18, and he'd believed her. She'd run away from home to be with him, they went to France, and then to Germany. There was a long search for the girl, and eventually, after several days, she flew home, and the american gave himself up to the police in Germany. he was charged with abduction and with sex offences related to having sex with a minor etc. and while it is true that he should have known better once he found out her age, she was the one who had initially lied to him, and more to the point, she spent up to 11 hours a day on the internet, and her parents had thought it was ok because they thought she was "a very sensible girl". Well it would seem not, and although she had acted very irresponsibly, it is the adults who are held accountable for her actions. I therefore stand by what I said, children should not be allowed to surf the internet unsupervised, not until they are at least 16.
Right! I've no idea what this topic's about because, frankly my dears, I haven't been bothered to trawl through the posts. HOwever, I know it has something to do with obscenity and kids, and one of the places they pick it up is the TV. Let me share with you a true story that's also rather funny. i was watching Bath against Gloucester on TV, and Stuart Barnes, the former Bath player, was doing the preview for Sky TV. Now, he was right in front of the Gloucester fans - the drunken, Bath-hating Gloucester fans. He was being all serious about his pre-match analysis when suddenly there came an exhibition of beautiful close-harmony chanting, and you could catch every word. the gloucester fans were chanting, and I quote, "Barns! you Twat! Fuck off, back, to bath!" they did this throughout his pre-match analysis and his post-match report! Hilarious
I can't read and I can't write but that don't really matter, 'cos I come from gloucestershire and I can drive a tractor.
ah but ll you need the gorgious gloucestershire tones to do this justice ... and please excuse my spelling here but needs must ... oy can't read and oy can't wroyte but that don't really mat'erhrhrhrhrh, coz oy cums from glostersherhrhrhrhr and oy can droyve a tracterhrhrhrhrhrhrhr
Indeed I can't deny that. I shall try and post an audio sample shortly.
oh i could do that ... i come from swindon remember which isn't far from gloucester ... that said i'm not sure the world really wants to hear that, grin. however if you could post a sample of the original chanting ... grin
No no no I don't have it. I'll post a sample of how Michael Howard says his L's.
oh dear god what have we started ... no no we want ann Robbinson - you are the weakest link, good bye
or how charles Clarke says 'security services' he really does sound hung-over when he does! Yeah we'll have to have a sample of 'So! that was a terrible round wasn't it?'
Sorry what was it we were talking about again? A prawn cocktail! Ah yes that's it, when you said prawn, I thought you said war....oh the war! yes had completely forgotten about it Hitler, Himmler and all that lot.....I'm sorry what was it again?
Sorry, sorry I got a bit confused because everyone keeps mentioning the war.
It has been pointed out to me that this topic has now gone seriously off-topic due to my ramblings. I had no idea I had digressed so much until it was pointed out to me, but I do apologise most sincerely (Although that apology doesn't go as far as accepting any liability) for any distress caused by this reckless disregard for the theme of the topic.
sincerely? now why don't i believe that! grin
Well it seems that none of the people who think fourteen-year-olds are adults have contributed to this topic over night, or at least it was night in the place where all the best people live. Maybe they're still trying to work out the Jackonaypery of yesterday? Oh well, must be going, as I have an exam to sit.
What kind of a word is Jackonapery anyway? I certainly think it should be used more often.
yes LL you strayed and you need to be beaten (Lol) but seriously, as the topic strayed, or before it did, I think ppl were delving into two different situations. first, the one which Alison started about swearing/cursing, etc. then about kids in chat rooms! but yes it does come down to parent censering their kids from both situations, or being able to trust them enough. .. however, swearing can be enjoyed or not enjoyed by "kids" and adults alike. As I've said before, i don't do it myself but I won't make judgements on others doing it. I personally don't feel a need for it at all but I don't choose my friends because of it.
However, back to this site, it is freedom of speech and it is up to parents to censer what their kids do and where they go on the net. Also no-one is forcing anyone to stay. If you don't like it and/or you feel you shouldn't be exposed to it, you don't have to come here.
I have also said this before, but I do believe there needs to be a bit of a line drawn up as far as abusive posts, etc. that's just me though I guess.
Chop their hands off that's what I say.
I wonder how the parents went about judging their daughter to be "sensible". I wonder what else they did not supervise besides the Internet, and how much they did not know about her and her thought process. Apparently, this *particular* child was not ready for the Internet chat rooms.
All right you've twisted my arm....we'll flush the parents into the Thames with all the other turds as well.
excellent! sounds like a good idea to me
Jolly good. This bloody country! Sorry no reason for that at all.
bloody country? lawlord all this obsene language ... it's terrible! ... grin
Indeed I don't condone it in the slightest. it's a disgrace. We used to get beaten in school for that, you know. But then again, our masters used to beat us every day. I'm eternally grateful to them for that of course! made me the man I am today!
Ah, LL, long as you knew exactly what your place in the universe was, like a bug under a shoe, I guess it's all right. Hahahahahaha!
Of course, we knew our place in those days. Not like the young offenders who make up the majority of the population of the halls of learning today, drown them in the sea!
no no no sell them into slavery or to huntington life sciences for experimentation.
Oh don't start that again! You'll have our resident medical officer of the third reich on our case! he's probably already started doing that in pursuance of his research for the fatherland anyway.
Y'all never cease to amuse me. However i have to say that Alison is quite mature and ready for the Internet. She's so mature that she realizes excessive searing is unnecessary. So I have to disagree in the statement htat she's not ready for the Net. That said, throw all the people that disagree with me into a vat of boilign wine! Or something.
And also in my last post I wasn't saying all children are mature. But i consider myself mature enough to know what is safe, unsafe, appropriate, not appropriate, etc. And I dont' go into chat rooms and I'd never meet any weird guy I'd met online! Lol!
Oh and, I think the Weakest Link is sooooo funny! THey took it off TV here though, darn lol!
That's because it was not appreciated by the american audience, hence a lot of you guys need sense of humour transplants, or a thicker skin, or both.
that's why they didn't get Dad's Army either when we sold it to them.
Well when I say that, of course they got it or else that would have been breach of contract on our part. The problem was, that although they got it, they didn't get it.
wonder what they'd have made of faulty towers for that matter
I think Fawlty Towers has a following here, although I doubt it's mainstream. Public TV stations end up buying a number of British comedy series, so there's an audience for it, but that kind of thing will go right over the heads of the Jerry Springer and reality TV crowd most likely.
In honor of this topic. Fuck, fuck, fuck, a duck, and screw a cangaroo, finger bang an orangutan, an orgie at the zoo. Now, this I have heard going around middle school playgrounds and lunch rooms while doing my teacher observation hours for Principles of Music Education class. We're talking middle school, people, that's kids between the ages of around eight to about twelve. Now, I first heard this at the age of fifteen or sixteen, but these kids certainly knew how it went.
I'm not afraid to admit that I do swear. I just never drop the f--- bomb.
And the point of resurrecting a two-year-old topic was ...?
Beats me. I'm just responding to what I read.
As for that post about not dropping the f--- bomb, I find myself dropping it a lot more often than I usually do, of lately.
re fawlty towers, it's particularly british humour, and the americans don't get it that easily in my experience. I think it's rather good though. of course, I'm for the UK, where the show is based.
Nymphodora, the zone will do that to you.
Bob
So I've noticed.
Hi, this is the first time I have answered to this post. I don't sware much maybe now and then but very rarely. But I hear it all the time especially from my bus driver that takes me to college. I have never heard anything like it in my life f and c but mostly f. She is 25 years old the bus driver and she can be crude at times. All people say so to on the bus. I have learned to ignore it now.
here's my thoughts on the matter. you are gonna incounter people who sware in the wirld. and while I hate it also, I can't stop them. it's a thing called freedom of speech! you can't stop anyone from saying what they want, that's there right here, and anywhere else for that matter! all you have to do is put people on ignore who offind you! it's as simple as that!
My dad says people who sware are badly educated.
that might be so. but you can't stop someone from doing what they want to do. I don't like it either. But I just have to deal with it.
Yeah, agree with the last 2 posts in a way. I don't like swearing either; I only do it when I'm alone and am really frustrated about something at the moment, and even then I catch myself on it and won't do it often. But to swear in a conversation with someone or just to emphasize on something (especially if it's done all the time), is really not necessary. I'll admit to using the word "freakin'" to emphasize something at times, so I'm saying this for myself too. Maybe swearing happens everywhere and all the time, but I just don't feel comfortable around it and can't keep a conversation going with someone that feels they have to swear while talking to me; maybe a few rare instances of it I can tolerate, but if they're talking normally includes swearing, I don't know that I could just talk to them like nothing. As for music and shows, I actually don't mind listening to them, although if I know they have constant swearing in them, I'd rather get the edited/ clean version of a music CD. Also, I'm proud of my oldest nephew because although he did tell me he swears at school, he is respectful enough not to swear around family and relatives and if he feels he needs to say something that includes a swearword like if he's telling a joke or something he heard from someone else, he will ask first if he can say it, and he will also point out when an adult swears. Not sure if anyone first said he has to ask, but he does that on his own. My second-oldest nephew and the parents do swear though (weirdly the parents tell the kids not to), and my youngest nephew had picked that up for a short time, so I think it's cool that my oldest one is how he is and hope he'll stay like that. I haven't heard their sister swear, and hope she won't easily pick up from others on that; she also points out when others swear. (my nephews and niece are from 11 to 4 years old.)
I've already posted here, but I have observed something which I think is a bit immature and it is as follows.
Sometimes, those who don't like swearing like to point it out in quicknotes, or request that other people don't swear. When they do, they usually get a response which is deliberately full of fowl language by somebody who obviously wants to annoy them. This response may be "fuck fuck fuck" which I saw in a quicknote the other day or something similar.
It would be better if such requests didn't provoke the same boring repetitive and pathetic responses in people. I think it would be better if people either agreed to the request or decided against complying with the request. I realise though that next time somebody calls for there to be less fowl language, the response will probably be "fuck fuck fuck".
I agree that bad language should not be allowed on The Zone. When you're on here, it's always important to be nice and have respect for one another.
If you don't like what's being said here on The Zone then use the Ignore Feature and quit complaining. If I got something to say regaading an insult towards myself or something that I disagree with I'm going to say something about it.
Right and if you say something like "Oh I don't use the Ignore Feature" then that's your own damn problem so deal with it.
All I have to say is if I use the ignore feature for people who swear my list would be so long so I don't do it. I don't like it either but I can easily, turn off public Qn's or jump past them to whatever I'm doing.
well what can i say, my list is fairly long then, lokl
wonderwoman
welcome to the real world, people. you may not like swearing, but it's a fact of life you have to deal with anyway, so face it. even if by some miracle the whole world stopped cussing, you'd still find something to bitch about...
that is what I'm saying! I don't like it, but I also have to face facts and just let it go. and that's what everyone should do. simple as that.
well said
Two things: first of all, I've heard talk of a commedy, Falty Towers, I believe it was that was based in the UK. Does it air on any American stations? If so I'd be interested to know where I might locate it. Secondly, we need to be more concerned by children who make and understand extremely violent, sexually slanted or racially negative jokes, than those kids who pick up bitch as a negative term and use it, but don't really grasp the import of the word. If you study the communication of children you will find that most kids start out by picking up sware words and not really understanding why they are "bad words". For example, if you asked a kid to define shit, they would probably say something like, "It is what mommy says when she's angry, when she drops something." or bitch, "It's a mean lady." "fuck, "It means someone's mad because something broke, or they hurt them self." Kids just don't get the various levels. We create social levels, for example darn, jeez, rats are very mild substitutions for sware words, mother scratcher, sun of a pup, etc are still substitutions but give a little more of the conotation of what they are meant to replace, damn and hell fall in one of the lower layers of swearing, whereas words such as bitch or shit might be higher up and words like fuck would be very close to the top of the list. Some words such as the C word and expressions like M Fing are at the true top of the list. There is a higherarchy here, although it can vary by ethnic group, region, socio-economic nich, age group and so on and so forth. I would much rather my child come in from school and say "Billy was mean to me: he's an asshole." Than to have my child tell a joke about a black man being shot, a woman being raped, etc. I would much rather they accidentally drop a plate and break it while helping me with the dishes and say "Oh, shit." than for them to hit another child because they saw violence on the street or on TV. Those are just two examples, but I think the point is made that one needs to bring some perspective to this issue. Would I be happy about my kids swearing? No, but are there many more serious things which I would like to see them avoid? Absolutely.